tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5927086664707056533.post2976246725652572378..comments2024-03-29T17:53:55.728+06:00Comments on Bhutan Land Of The Thunder Dragon: Yet Again, The Shingkhar-Gorgan Road Rears Its Ugly HeadYeshey Dorjihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03414546232976648883noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5927086664707056533.post-25185107458452364312014-09-15T17:23:29.461+06:002014-09-15T17:23:29.461+06:00I cant wait to see this place by myself. Heard tha...I cant wait to see this place by myself. Heard that this is the happiest country of the world.If anybody wants to join me for the trip feel free to contact me.<br />After an extensive online research i found this best package. check it out<br />http://www.365hops.com/social/event_detail.php?eventid=VkZod2FtVlJQVDA9Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18415564812619783135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5927086664707056533.post-48119585293277071842014-06-15T22:05:20.749+06:002014-06-15T22:05:20.749+06:00oh! I loved your blog! I hope Mr. Modi's visit...oh! I loved your blog! I hope Mr. Modi's visit will better the relationships between our nation even more :)<br /><br />Bhutan is like heaven, just so beautiful! i really wish to visit this magical place!Ankitahttp://www.hummingwords.blogspot.in/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5927086664707056533.post-33628808876767642402014-06-15T17:34:54.185+06:002014-06-15T17:34:54.185+06:00This seems to be a good article but i don't ag...This seems to be a good article but i don't agree with all that it stands for. My first argument is if nangar-ura by pass makes so much sense then why not this. What is big difference?<br />It is not only about Lhuntse, it is also about Mongar, Trashigang and Trashiyangtse almost entire eastern Bhutan, except S/jongkhar and Pema Gatshel. If this road come up it could cut short distances to Lhuntse by 150 kilometers(approx), Mongar and Trashigang by 50 kilometers and similarly Trashiyangtse if traversed via Lhuntse. It could therefore save govt. billions of money annually and precious time. It could immensely benefit people in these dzongkhags above all. This could go well with the proposal of regional balance in terms of economic development.<br />Where in Bhutan do we have roads that does not cut through forests and community?. If we talk about treachery of roads thrumshingla-namling is no better, i do not have to account those losses especially of life. In 2006 i accompanied a group of geologists to help collect rock samples from shingkhar. These experts believe that phobjikha and shingkhar could be relatively older than himalayas, it could be proved other wise. But how do you say that the road is geologically unstable, what is the basis.<br />From my experience singmala would be dry almost whole winter, when thrumshingla is under ice and snow. So, i can't believe Singmala is higher than Thrumshingla. Hope you have GPS data to support this statement.<br />Being brought up in shingkhar and having traversed the olden mule track to zhongmey i am skeptical about the accuracy of distances calculated, because we could reach zhongmey in 7 odd hours on foot.<br />I can see through the eyes of people of kurtoe what this road means to them because whole may of 2012 i traveled length and breath of kurtoe; wawai in the north to Jarey, tsenkhar, metsho and autsho in the south on my trip to oversee rural electrification project. This could be the game changer for them in terms of improving their livelihoods in the long-run. Govt must also have undertaken cost-benefit analysis for sure, because it entails a huge expenditure.<br />However, i feel sometimes the so called educated elite in Bhutan have a lot of reasons which are in part mostly text-bookish rather than pragmatic. Any way just my view!<br />Sambalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03528417403551050554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5927086664707056533.post-34188583478551201342014-06-15T11:08:23.123+06:002014-06-15T11:08:23.123+06:00Dear Lopen Yeshe,
Thank you for the well written a...Dear Lopen Yeshe,<br />Thank you for the well written and well researched article. I hope it will get the attention of the relevant authorities. As much as I stand for the economic development of the local communities and the provision of good and easy communication facilities to people of these areas, I too remain suspicious of the benefit of this road. I am myself deeply connected to this part of Bhutan, with some deep roots in Shingkhar and quarter of my origin in Tsakaling, which lies on the edge of Kurtoe and shall benefit from this new road. In spite of the likely short term economic benefit and convenience this new connection will bring, I am wary as you are of the ecological consequences. The geological make of that terrain is precarious to say the least. Just next door in the Ngalakharchung valley, a whole mountain broke loose a dozen years ago causing not only great ecological disaster but much loss of life and property. The whole Kurichu project was nearly swept away downstream. That was already enough warning for people to be careful when they deal with the steep terrain in these areas.<br /><br />The economic argument that the local communities can develop with the construction of these roads has no basis. Shingkhar already has road, so does villages in Kurtoe on the other side of the mountain. The connection that will pass through sheer wilderness is not going to add any significant bit to their economic betterment. Some commentators above say that the farmers could easily sell their dairy products. What we know is dairy farming almost immediately stops with the arrival of road as people have quick access to Amul. Shingkhar is a good example. Closure of yak farming and decline in dairy farming started when motor road reached Shingkhar.<br /><br />The most important question is really about where we envision Bhutan to be in 30, 50 or a 100 years time. Do we want all our valleys and wild life reserves crisscrossed by highways? Do we want gas stations and auto-workshop shacks to prop up in every idyllic valley we have today? Bhutan's main wealth is and will be its environment and culture and this will be our lasting source of income and happiness as well as our contribution to the world. Any untoward intrusion into ecological watershed and spiritual valley such as Shingkhar will not result in economic loss (as we increasingly rely on hydro power and tourism) as well the very unique characteristics which make Bhutan special. It is for this reason, the Shingkhar community campaigned against a golf course and the responsible government of the day saw reason to stop as they have to stop the road. The Shingkhar-Gorgan road plan deserves much more debate than it is given, certainly more than MP salary packages.<br /><br />Karma PhuntshoKarma Phuntshohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09861214995247610365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5927086664707056533.post-87775173810274049082014-06-04T09:15:40.976+06:002014-06-04T09:15:40.976+06:00We have to build billions of Nu. road so some cow ...We have to build billions of Nu. road so some cow herders in kurtoe can sell butter and cheese. Rediculous!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5927086664707056533.post-3364597702637404332014-06-03T09:44:41.788+06:002014-06-03T09:44:41.788+06:00I guess the author has done a pretty good backgrou...I guess the author has done a pretty good background study. i won't be surprised to know if the author is the very group that is involved in planning the road. anyway all said and done, we should sometimes concentrate on the better things that the uncompleted road will bring to the nation as a whole by completing it to its desired end than keeping it half way done. after going through your well researched information, this are some of my observations.<br />1 The numerous zigs that is required to negotiate pelphu gonpa is already done and complete. what remains in the 30 km or so of balance length which should now be through a gentle stretch.<br />2 the peoples of Kurtoe,and area between pelphu gonpa and shingkhar is practically herders with lots of cows. with the present government putting all its effort to maximize the use of internal resources, this road will help maximize the income of these farmers through sale of butter, cheese and not forgetting the agricultural products.<br />i again beg to disagree that the road will result in the whole mountain being pulled down.????? with a little knowledge i have, it looks even more disastrous than an tsunami or an volcanic eruption. lets not put unrealistic fear in the minds of innocent peoples. <br />i'm not quite sure if singma la pass is higher than the Thrimshing la pass.<br />as you pointed out of the very old trees, i feel we Bhutanese should harvest these tress when they have valuable economic life instead of making them age and rot to the ground.( may be the relevant professionals would have a better say)<br />the reduction in the distance by almost 100km will not only save us from cost of fuel, but on time, wear and tear of vehicle parts, the stretch of environmental pollution caused by vehicular emissions etc. ...<br />of course i agree there will be certain degree of disturbance to the environment. this are small cost we have to pay if the projects gives us even better benefits.<br />so lets not make it an political issue. by the way i do not in any way mean to oppose your article but just wants to contribute in a positive way with little facts a for more comments if there is any. by the way, thank you author for beautiful pictures you have posted.karseldawahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12037812586210330441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5927086664707056533.post-81133487371299618002014-06-02T11:20:19.334+06:002014-06-02T11:20:19.334+06:00Well researched article. Today - 2nd June - Enviro...Well researched article. Today - 2nd June - Environment Day/ Social Forestry Day is marked throughout the country by planting trees and the Government is planning to cut down the trees just for a road. And it is not as if Lhuntse is not connected at all. PDP has pledged helicopters if we are talking about shortening the travel time. So, conserve our forest - which is our treasure. <br /><br />Supernoreply@blogger.com